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		<title>By: Mike Schinkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Schinkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 23:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Laurie: &quot;Wonder how many people would take this plunge if they really understood that upfront?&quot;

I wrote a book once. Having known what it was going to take, care to guess if I&#039;d do it again? :-)
.-= Mike Schinkel´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://mikeschinkel.com/blog/25-best-practices-for-meetup-organizers/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;25 Best Practices for Meetup Organizers&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Laurie: &#8220;Wonder how many people would take this plunge if they really understood that upfront?&#8221;</p>
<p>I wrote a book once. Having known what it was going to take, care to guess if I&#8217;d do it again? <img src='http://lauriefoley.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
.-= Mike Schinkel´s last blog ..<a href="http://mikeschinkel.com/blog/25-best-practices-for-meetup-organizers/" rel="nofollow">25 Best Practices for Meetup Organizers</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michael - &quot;research narrows the risk in communication&quot; &lt;- This is exactly why people should hire you when they want genius.

@David - Great point about the candle needing air. Love that.

@Mike - Thanks for dropping by! It&#039;s a fascinating thing about entrepreneurs.  We *want* to do our thing but we must be able to see the needs of others. Wonder how many people would take this plunge if they really understood that upfront?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael &#8211; &#8220;research narrows the risk in communication&#8221; <- This is exactly why people should hire you when they want genius.</p>
<p>@David &#8211; Great point about the candle needing air. Love that.</p>
<p>@Mike &#8211; Thanks for dropping by! It&#8217;s a fascinating thing about entrepreneurs.  We *want* to do our thing but we must be able to see the needs of others. Wonder how many people would take this plunge if they really understood that upfront?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Schinkel</title>
		<link>http://lauriefoley.com/2010/03/the-discipline-of-knowledge/comment-page-1/#comment-527</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Schinkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  My first exposure to marketing, while still in college but needing to figure out what kind of ad to run in a magazine to promote our business, was reading &quot;Ogilvy on Advertising.&quot;  I thank the magazine ad rep from so many years ago who helped ensure I started with the right foundation.

I guess the thing that resonates with me is that I&#039;ve seen many time over that people want to focus on what they want to sell and spend so little time thinking what their customers want to buy. I guess it&#039;s because it takes a lot more work to uncover the latter.
.-= Mike Schinkel´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://mikeschinkel.com/blog/25-best-practices-for-meetup-organizers/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;25 Best Practices for Meetup Organizers&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  My first exposure to marketing, while still in college but needing to figure out what kind of ad to run in a magazine to promote our business, was reading &#8220;Ogilvy on Advertising.&#8221;  I thank the magazine ad rep from so many years ago who helped ensure I started with the right foundation.</p>
<p>I guess the thing that resonates with me is that I&#8217;ve seen many time over that people want to focus on what they want to sell and spend so little time thinking what their customers want to buy. I guess it&#8217;s because it takes a lot more work to uncover the latter.<br />
.-= Mike Schinkel´s last blog ..<a href="http://mikeschinkel.com/blog/25-best-practices-for-meetup-organizers/" rel="nofollow">25 Best Practices for Meetup Organizers</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: David Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great book and a great question!  My true customers want to be seen and acknowledged for something special they have to offer. They&#039;ve got the candle inside, but they don&#039;t know how to let other people see it. 

Some fear it, because it is so deeply rooted in who they are that they worry that rejection could be catastrophically painful. Some avoid it, and obfuscate it because they&#039;ve been taught to measure themselves by other people&#039;s yardsticks. But there comes a point for my customers that the fear, the avoidance, the &quot;sensible voices&quot;, the second guessing can&#039;t stack up to the need to light that candle and see it shine.  The pain of not being seen for their best self, of not being taken seriously for their humanity, for their own unique flavor of awesome begins to outweigh the risk. But the timing is critical because that candle can burn itself out if it doesn&#039;t get some air.  The caterpillar becomes the butterfly in the cocoon, but once transformed it can&#039;t stay in the cocoon. It has to spread its wings or it dies. 

So to break it down, I guess I&#039;m saying my customers are caterpillars who aren&#039;t being recognized for being the butterfly that they already know they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great book and a great question!  My true customers want to be seen and acknowledged for something special they have to offer. They&#8217;ve got the candle inside, but they don&#8217;t know how to let other people see it. </p>
<p>Some fear it, because it is so deeply rooted in who they are that they worry that rejection could be catastrophically painful. Some avoid it, and obfuscate it because they&#8217;ve been taught to measure themselves by other people&#8217;s yardsticks. But there comes a point for my customers that the fear, the avoidance, the &#8220;sensible voices&#8221;, the second guessing can&#8217;t stack up to the need to light that candle and see it shine.  The pain of not being seen for their best self, of not being taken seriously for their humanity, for their own unique flavor of awesome begins to outweigh the risk. But the timing is critical because that candle can burn itself out if it doesn&#8217;t get some air.  The caterpillar becomes the butterfly in the cocoon, but once transformed it can&#8217;t stay in the cocoon. It has to spread its wings or it dies. </p>
<p>So to break it down, I guess I&#8217;m saying my customers are caterpillars who aren&#8217;t being recognized for being the butterfly that they already know they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Baxter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Baxter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said. Organizations often invest so much in talking and so little in asking / listening. Because they *think* they know what their audiences want, based on their experience. While experience is a valuable teacher, research narrows the risk in communication -- something David Ogilvy knew well. 

(Your blog also made me imagine what a 21st century version of the Hathaway shirt man would look like. An avatar? Maybe wearing a SARS mask?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said. Organizations often invest so much in talking and so little in asking / listening. Because they *think* they know what their audiences want, based on their experience. While experience is a valuable teacher, research narrows the risk in communication &#8212; something David Ogilvy knew well. </p>
<p>(Your blog also made me imagine what a 21st century version of the Hathaway shirt man would look like. An avatar? Maybe wearing a SARS mask?)</p>
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