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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Maura - I love the word thrill. And invitation. Much to chew on from you - thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Maura &#8211; I love the word thrill. And invitation. Much to chew on from you &#8211; thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Maura Conlon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maura Conlon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 15:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Laurie,
This is a wonderful post.  Your line here struck a chord:
&quot;One might even argue that it requires a tribe to effect a significant shift – that individuals just don’t singularly possess the amount of energy needed to have that effect.&quot;
Agreed! I think we are trying to shift from being &quot;me-centered&quot; to &quot;we-aware&quot; but we don&#039;t yet know quite how.  So I love what you pose here (if I read between the lines correctly): how do we communicate the yearnings in our talented hearts to co-create something powerful where it&#039;s a thrill for us to participate?  It&#039;s the &quot;thrill&quot; word I love. A business proposition or any genuine communication ought to be a invitation that&#039;s thrill infused!

I heard Ken Robinson speak while he was in Portland. The man is so busy, I think he&#039;s too busy to even think about the tribe he&#039;s leading.

Do Apostles have tribes? Now that&#039;s a whole other conversation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Laurie,<br />
This is a wonderful post.  Your line here struck a chord:<br />
&#8220;One might even argue that it requires a tribe to effect a significant shift – that individuals just don’t singularly possess the amount of energy needed to have that effect.&#8221;<br />
Agreed! I think we are trying to shift from being &#8220;me-centered&#8221; to &#8220;we-aware&#8221; but we don&#8217;t yet know quite how.  So I love what you pose here (if I read between the lines correctly): how do we communicate the yearnings in our talented hearts to co-create something powerful where it&#8217;s a thrill for us to participate?  It&#8217;s the &#8220;thrill&#8221; word I love. A business proposition or any genuine communication ought to be a invitation that&#8217;s thrill infused!</p>
<p>I heard Ken Robinson speak while he was in Portland. The man is so busy, I think he&#8217;s too busy to even think about the tribe he&#8217;s leading.</p>
<p>Do Apostles have tribes? Now that&#8217;s a whole other conversation!</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie Foley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie Foley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michele - Love your recap: quality, authenticity, connection.  Perfect summary. And exactly who you are.

@Lain - Yes to tailoring to the medium! And next time someone balks about social media, I&#039;m going to point them to Oakland Cemetery. I mean, if a cemetery can tweet... And your blog is awesome.

@David - The thunder? Results, baby. Loud, booming results.

@Victoria - Genius comments about cliques.  Are you going to write that post or shall I?  Wanna guest post? :-)

@Tamara - How&#039;d it go?

@Deb - You make such an interesting point.  Most people I know, me included, get sucked in for a while when they get started.  That&#039;s another reason I usually wait a while before pulling the plug on a connection.  We can all learn!

And I love your new thing, btw!

@Sue - What a great synopsis of a tribe - common goals, chance to share and a brand identity. Congrats on the puppy!
.-= Laurie Foley´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://lauriefoley.com/2010/04/are-you-leading-a-tribe-or-boring-a-crowd/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Are You Leading a Tribe or Boring a Crowd?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michele &#8211; Love your recap: quality, authenticity, connection.  Perfect summary. And exactly who you are.</p>
<p>@Lain &#8211; Yes to tailoring to the medium! And next time someone balks about social media, I&#8217;m going to point them to Oakland Cemetery. I mean, if a cemetery can tweet&#8230; And your blog is awesome.</p>
<p>@David &#8211; The thunder? Results, baby. Loud, booming results.</p>
<p>@Victoria &#8211; Genius comments about cliques.  Are you going to write that post or shall I?  Wanna guest post? <img src='http://lauriefoley.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Tamara &#8211; How&#8217;d it go?</p>
<p>@Deb &#8211; You make such an interesting point.  Most people I know, me included, get sucked in for a while when they get started.  That&#8217;s another reason I usually wait a while before pulling the plug on a connection.  We can all learn!</p>
<p>And I love your new thing, btw!</p>
<p>@Sue &#8211; What a great synopsis of a tribe &#8211; common goals, chance to share and a brand identity. Congrats on the puppy!<br />
.-= Laurie Foley´s last blog ..<a href="http://lauriefoley.com/2010/04/are-you-leading-a-tribe-or-boring-a-crowd/" rel="nofollow">Are You Leading a Tribe or Boring a Crowd?</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue in Florida</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue in Florida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 00:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great topic, Laurie! 

I got a puppy over the winter and now we go to the dog park every day.  Dog owners are great people and I feel like they are my &quot;tribe&quot;.  It&#039;s a great feeling to have other people know what you are going thru (housebreaking!) and to see people that only know you as &quot;Winnie&#039;s Mom&quot;.
Sue</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great topic, Laurie! </p>
<p>I got a puppy over the winter and now we go to the dog park every day.  Dog owners are great people and I feel like they are my &#8220;tribe&#8221;.  It&#8217;s a great feeling to have other people know what you are going thru (housebreaking!) and to see people that only know you as &#8220;Winnie&#8217;s Mom&#8221;.<br />
Sue</p>
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		<title>By: Deb Owen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deb Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 11:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep.  And that&#039;s one reason I just dropped everything for a while and then started over.  Totally.  

I had a &#039;social media marketing guru&#039; who&#039;s pretty &#039;famous&#039; in those circles let me know in no uncertain terms that if we thought we were above it all and not in high school anymore, we were wrong -- that that was exactly what it was about.  (This was right before the same person let us all know they were looking for people prone to &#039;cult-following&#039; as &#039;perfect clients&#039; -- and neither one of those things describes me so I opted out.)

There are a lot of great people out there.  And even some of those &#039;carnival barkers&#039; send out inspiring messages every day so I keep them around.  But yeah.  I set out to do something more than just gather stats to impress other people I don&#039;t even know.  I got a little sucked into it and off track for a while, but I&#039;ve &#039;course-adjusted&#039; 
;-)

Love this post!  Thanks!
d</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep.  And that&#8217;s one reason I just dropped everything for a while and then started over.  Totally.  </p>
<p>I had a &#8216;social media marketing guru&#8217; who&#8217;s pretty &#8216;famous&#8217; in those circles let me know in no uncertain terms that if we thought we were above it all and not in high school anymore, we were wrong &#8212; that that was exactly what it was about.  (This was right before the same person let us all know they were looking for people prone to &#8216;cult-following&#8217; as &#8216;perfect clients&#8217; &#8212; and neither one of those things describes me so I opted out.)</p>
<p>There are a lot of great people out there.  And even some of those &#8216;carnival barkers&#8217; send out inspiring messages every day so I keep them around.  But yeah.  I set out to do something more than just gather stats to impress other people I don&#8217;t even know.  I got a little sucked into it and off track for a while, but I&#8217;ve &#8216;course-adjusted&#8217;<br />
 <img src='http://lauriefoley.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Love this post!  Thanks!<br />
d</p>
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		<title>By: Tamara B Gehle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tamara B Gehle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to give a presentation at church on Sunday and this tribe description is exactly the fuel I needed. Thanks, Laurie!</description>
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		<title>By: Victoria Potts Keale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria Potts Keale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Laurie! 

I cringe every time I hear the word &quot;tribe&quot;... because more often then not it feels synonymous with &quot;clique&quot;. While intentions may be good when forming these partnerships, as I watch these &quot;tribes&quot; grow, their exclusiveness becomes off-putting. 

I think the marking of a great leader comes with the ability to find that balance between clique and mob - by providing a resource to their specific market that does not feel cold and totally sales-driven AND does not feel über-exclusive. 

I often wonder if that grade school clique mentality never quite leaves us, especially in the &quot;fempreneur&quot; world. I would say that it is very important for online marketers to step back and look at how they come across to those outside their tribe... Are you welcoming to new people? Do you engage everyone equally? Do you mark some members as lower priority? Do you view your tribe as dollar signs? 

If you are really out there to help people do whatever it is you specialize in, be cautious not to let that clique mentality take over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Laurie! </p>
<p>I cringe every time I hear the word &#8220;tribe&#8221;&#8230; because more often then not it feels synonymous with &#8220;clique&#8221;. While intentions may be good when forming these partnerships, as I watch these &#8220;tribes&#8221; grow, their exclusiveness becomes off-putting. </p>
<p>I think the marking of a great leader comes with the ability to find that balance between clique and mob &#8211; by providing a resource to their specific market that does not feel cold and totally sales-driven AND does not feel über-exclusive. </p>
<p>I often wonder if that grade school clique mentality never quite leaves us, especially in the &#8220;fempreneur&#8221; world. I would say that it is very important for online marketers to step back and look at how they come across to those outside their tribe&#8230; Are you welcoming to new people? Do you engage everyone equally? Do you mark some members as lower priority? Do you view your tribe as dollar signs? </p>
<p>If you are really out there to help people do whatever it is you specialize in, be cautious not to let that clique mentality take over.</p>
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		<title>By: David Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, I nominate Laurie :) I&#039;d also mention Jeff Pulver as a great online tribe leader - he understands that you have to feed your tribe: feed them ideas, events, fun, the wisdom of tribal elders (even if they are very young elders) and he&#039;s responsive even though his follower count is huge.  I also think Fabeku brings something special to the role of online tribal leader.

So I have to ask if &quot;creative is the lightning&quot; what&#039;s the thunder?
.-= David Cohen´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://davidscohen.wordpress.com/2010/04/15/right-brain-resurgent/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Right Brain resurgent&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I nominate Laurie <img src='http://lauriefoley.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;d also mention Jeff Pulver as a great online tribe leader &#8211; he understands that you have to feed your tribe: feed them ideas, events, fun, the wisdom of tribal elders (even if they are very young elders) and he&#8217;s responsive even though his follower count is huge.  I also think Fabeku brings something special to the role of online tribal leader.</p>
<p>So I have to ask if &#8220;creative is the lightning&#8221; what&#8217;s the thunder?<br />
.-= David Cohen´s last blog ..<a href="http://davidscohen.wordpress.com/2010/04/15/right-brain-resurgent/" rel="nofollow">Right Brain resurgent</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Lain Shakespeare</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lain Shakespeare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  Generally speaking, I get annoyed whenever I see organizations tweeting or Facebooking (often the exact same content) &quot;from API.&quot; 

I feel like if you&#039;ve got a strong human voice and a reasonable cause, it&#039;s difficult not to lead.  If you&#039;re tweeting from an automated process, it&#039;s hard not to bore people.  That better be one smooth talkin&#039; automated process if you&#039;re expecting people to follow.

Our organization cross-posts the same content all over the place, but each time we adopt the language of that particular medium or the crowd.  What we say on Twitter will be different from what we say on Facebook, but since it&#039;s a tailored message it&#039;s almost always more effective than a general presentation.  Oakland Cemetery in Atlanta is a great example of an organization doing the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  Generally speaking, I get annoyed whenever I see organizations tweeting or Facebooking (often the exact same content) &#8220;from API.&#8221; </p>
<p>I feel like if you&#8217;ve got a strong human voice and a reasonable cause, it&#8217;s difficult not to lead.  If you&#8217;re tweeting from an automated process, it&#8217;s hard not to bore people.  That better be one smooth talkin&#8217; automated process if you&#8217;re expecting people to follow.</p>
<p>Our organization cross-posts the same content all over the place, but each time we adopt the language of that particular medium or the crowd.  What we say on Twitter will be different from what we say on Facebook, but since it&#8217;s a tailored message it&#8217;s almost always more effective than a general presentation.  Oakland Cemetery in Atlanta is a great example of an organization doing the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Michele Woodward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele Woodward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 12:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just thinking about this same topic!

I posted my first book review on Amazon in 1997.  For a brief, shining moment, I was in the top 100 of reviewers (I believe there were only 100 people reviewing at the time).  I was so jazzed!  Me!  Top 100!  I checked back several times each day to see if I had risen in the rankings.  I scrutinized #1 and #2 to see how I could pick them off.

I was obsessed with numbers.

And numbers don&#039;t mean squat. Someone could review 1000 books and do a half-assed job - but on sheer numbers, they dominate.

Same thing with Twitter, FB and LinkedIn.  We&#039;ve gotten in an out-of-control arms race - he with the most followers win.  But if you have 60,000 followers and no one buys anything, or hires you, they are useless.  

You could have 30 raving fans who buy everything you sell and hire you repeatedly, and you would have a great business.

It&#039;s quality, not quantity, that matters.  It&#039;s authenticity, not robo-tweets.  It&#039;s connection, not a drive-by.

Thanks, Laurie.  Now, to go un-friend some people.

-- Michele
.-= Michele Woodward´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/lifeframeworks/~3/4UShqb4xqPA/your-new-yardstick&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Your New Yardstick&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just thinking about this same topic!</p>
<p>I posted my first book review on Amazon in 1997.  For a brief, shining moment, I was in the top 100 of reviewers (I believe there were only 100 people reviewing at the time).  I was so jazzed!  Me!  Top 100!  I checked back several times each day to see if I had risen in the rankings.  I scrutinized #1 and #2 to see how I could pick them off.</p>
<p>I was obsessed with numbers.</p>
<p>And numbers don&#8217;t mean squat. Someone could review 1000 books and do a half-assed job &#8211; but on sheer numbers, they dominate.</p>
<p>Same thing with Twitter, FB and LinkedIn.  We&#8217;ve gotten in an out-of-control arms race &#8211; he with the most followers win.  But if you have 60,000 followers and no one buys anything, or hires you, they are useless.  </p>
<p>You could have 30 raving fans who buy everything you sell and hire you repeatedly, and you would have a great business.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s quality, not quantity, that matters.  It&#8217;s authenticity, not robo-tweets.  It&#8217;s connection, not a drive-by.</p>
<p>Thanks, Laurie.  Now, to go un-friend some people.</p>
<p>&#8211; Michele<br />
.-= Michele Woodward´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/lifeframeworks/~3/4UShqb4xqPA/your-new-yardstick" rel="nofollow">Your New Yardstick</a> =-.</p>
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